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December music

Today's story comes from a DYK about a concert that fascinated me, and you can listen! For my taste, the hook has too little music - I miss the unusual scoring and the specific dedication - but it comes instead with a name good for viewcount. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:35, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Today, listen to Sequenza XIV. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:37, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

On the Main page today Jean Sibelius on his birthday. Listening to Beethoven's Fifth from the opening of Notre-Dame de Paris. We sang in choirs today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:51, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Listen today to the (new) Perplexities after Escher, by the other Graham. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:51, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Listen today to Beethoven's 3rd cello sonata, on his birthday - it was a hook in the 2020 DYK set when his 250th birthday was remembered. I picked a recording with Antônio Meneses, because he was on my sad list this year, and I was in Brazil (see places), and I love his playing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:34, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I come to fix the cellist's name, with a 10-years-old DYK and new pics - look for red birds --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:15, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Today is a woman poet's centenary. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:47, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Today it's another great woman, soprano Sigrid Kehl, and I found a 1963 Christmas Oratorio detail. 10 years earlier than that cycle, Bach wrote seven cantatas for the 1724 season, based on seven songs, - my focus this year. Expect three stories for the three days they celebrated in Leipzig ;) - Enjoy the season! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:48, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My first Christmas story is about Gelobet seist du, Jesu Christ, BWV 91, 300 years today, and its song, 500 years old. Enjoy! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:38, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Similarly, my second Christmas story is about Christum wir sollen loben schon, BWV 121, 300 years today, and its song, 500 years old. An aria is inspired by a baby leaping in his mother's womb. Enjoy! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:07, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My third Christmas story is different. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:54, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Gerda Arendt: Except the link to the Youtube performance of the cantata on it isn't :-) ... it links to the previous day's cantata, BWV 121, rather than BWV 133. I noticed this because it was marked as a visited link. Graham87 (talk) 00:30, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, fixed, sorry. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:32, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pingpong

Pinged you on meta but I have no clue what happens if you try to contribute there so you can also answer here if you prefer so you don't have to listen to that mess. Polygnotus (talk) 03:13, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Polygnotus: I've replied there. Pings don't work retroactively, as you tried on Meta, so I would've never found out about this discussion without your message here. Graham87 (talk) 03:35, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Yeah, the serial ping system is incompatible with my multicore brain. Polygnotus (talk) 03:51, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reason for blocking?

Hi,

Carl Bogus [his real name], a friend of mine and a thoroughly honest law professor, told me that he doesn't understand why he has been blocked from editing Wikipedia

No doubt if he knew, he could take steps to cure or avoid whatever problem may have arisen.

Thanks for any guidance.

Sincerely,

—— Shakescene (talk) 22:00, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No such account exists here. You need to specify the account name for Graham87 to help you out. --Yamla (talk) 22:09, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Shakescene and Yamla: Indeed. I don't recall any cases like this and can't find anything when checking my block log over the past year. But having said that, his Wikipedia article says he's in Rhode Island, which indicates that he may well be affected by my block of 2600:8805:8000::/33, which is targeted at a highly prolific and disruptive IP-hopping user (as my block log there indicates, I'd tried narrower ranges in the past but they didn't work well enough). In other words, Carl Bogus's block may well have been caused by collateral damage. Graham87 (talk) 02:20, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm also in Rhode Island, but fortunately, I don't seem to be affected by this block. —— Shakescene (talk) 02:23, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Shakescene: That's because you're logged in and he probably isn't. To create an account for him, we'd need his desired username and an email address to send a temprorary password to; any of us can do this, or he can go through the request an account system. Graham87 (talk) 02:27, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also, re the block, see this ANI discussion (which I was notified about on my talk page) and the links therein. If anyone wants to know how I became so paranoid and aggressive about blocking that I lost my adminship, this editor is probably one of the top five or so of those who contributed to making me that way. Graham87 (talk) 02:51, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Does that disruptive editor have a history of logged-in disruption too? If not, we could try allowing account creation on the range; can always re-disable if they start making the same edits logged-in. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe|🤷) 02:58, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Tamzin: Not in the relatively recent past (that I know of), so I'd be OK with enabling account creation and seeing what happens. Graham87 (talk) 03:00, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done. @Shakescene: Ask your friend if he can create an account now. If he still can't, he should try clearing his cookies. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe|🤷) 04:30, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Juantheman96 redux

Shame to see that your admin privileges were revoked. You were really the only admin who even dared to care about Juan's active and persistent block evasion. wizzito | say hello! 08:36, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And yes... he is still at it on the Xfinity Wifi range in the Savannah area. 2601:586:D030:0:0:0:0:0/45 (block range · block log (global) · WHOIS (partial)) wizzito | say hello! 08:37, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Wizzito: Thanks, yeah it wasn't fun. I'm trying to minimise how many of those sorts of cases I have to deal with these days. Graham87 (talk) 08:43, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thanks for writing "Graham87's reconfirmation RfA debriefing". I bet it wasn't easy to put everything out there. But it will probably help at least one other person. ☆ Bri (talk) 14:56, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bri: No worries; I hope it does. It was more taxing intellectually than mentally in terms of how to put it together in a coherent way, if that makes any sense; User:Graham87/Personal Wikipedia timeline/How I lost my adminship was much harder to write from a mental perspective, probably because it was the first time I'd written those things in public. Here's a permalink to the way it is now, because I'm like that. :-) Graham87 (talk) 15:07, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have only just learned of this; I’m very sorry to hear that you had to relinquish the tools. For what it is worth, I would have supported your re-RFA, but I am glad you have stayed on as a regular editor at least. I have always found you to be very helpful and polite when I have approached you. Patient Zero^talk 07:24, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's been officially published. Graham87 (talk) 05:40, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Quick undelete

Hey, could any admins watching this undelete Talk:KROQ for me, per a request I made at Wikipedia:Requests for history merge (permalink)? I could do most of the rest from there on. I'll probably get to the history merge within the next couple of hours, if the undeletion is done within that time; I wasn't too sure about my time availability yesterday so I thought I'd post at the history merge board first. Graham87 (talk) 03:44, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe|🤷) 04:00, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Or do I need to seldel the 2019 edit? I'm not sure exactly what your buttons can do on their own. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe|🤷) 04:02, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Tamzin: Thanks, perfect! Will get to it later. Graham87 (talk) 04:08, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All done; I've tagged the page with the leftover redirects, Talk:KROQ-FM/temp, for speedy deletion. Graham87 (talk) 06:44, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Page moves

Hello, Graham87,

When moving pages, especially en masse, please leave behind redirects. Because you didn't do so on some recent project page moves, we are left with a lot of broken redirects that need to be deleted. Just consider doing this in the future, both for the main page and for the talk page. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 08:19, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Liz: Thanks for the note, and sorry about causing all that bother. I didn't leave redirects behind in that case because I'd moved the pages to bad temporary titles ... I didn't even think about broken redirects! (I've gone and re-created them all, correctly). I'll keep broken redirects in mind in the future, but I don't see myself doing many mass-page moves like that for a while yet. Graham87 (talk) 08:37, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Admin/accountcreator/edit-filter whiz page watcher help potentially needed

... For this edit filter problem, relating to my attempt to import some edits from the August 2001 database dump. Before I lost my admin userrights, I gave myself account creator on the remote chance I'd need antispoof permissions; when it was taken away from me by JJMC89, I wasn't particularly phased because I knew I wouldn't use those permissions particularly often ... this is one of the times I might need it. The import is for the JohnnyCash redirect and was inspired by this upcoming Women in Red press release, where I've been trying to establish which was our first biographical article about a woman, which was Rosa Parks (but the "JohnnyCash" page, which wasn't really a biography, was created before then). Thanks! Graham87 (talk) 13:03, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's occurred to me that the easiest way to get around this would be to add the eventcoordinator permission to those not tripped by the filter, if that's feasible. Graham87 (talk) 13:07, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Importer seems like a better thing to tie it to. Replied at EFFP. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe|🤷) 16:38, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas

Hi Graham, I don't normally send out Christmas messages, but here's one:

"And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold,

I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.

For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord."

Luke 2:10-11 (King James Version)

Redrose64 🦌 (talk) is wishing you a Merry Christmas.

This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove.

Spread the cheer by adding {{Subst:Xmas4}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

It's still 25 December here in England; but it must be morning of 26 December by the time that you get this.

I've known of you for many years mainly through VPT and accessibility. We finally met in London, during May this year, and I hope never to forget that day - it was really great meeting you and your mother, I hope that you both enjoyed your visit. I read your subsequent conversations with Gerda Arendt with great interest. Like the two of you, but sadly to not as great a degree, I also appreciate some forms of classical music via my parents, and have a complete set of Beethoven symphonies (Herbert von Karajan, Berlin Philharmonic), plus other works by other composers. But I really have to defer to the both of you wnen you discuss J.S. Bach and the other greats.

I appreciate that it's not been a good time for you in the last few months, but I really do hope that things will improve, maybe you'll regain the admin bit within the year. If you reapply, I shall certainly support. All the best wishes for 2025, Redrose64 🦌 (talk) 17:38, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Redrose64: Thanks very much, that means a lot. Yes, indeed it's Boxing Day here now. It was a blast meeting you and everyone else in London ... plus the London and Europe trip generally! Beethoven symphonies are great too, especially with Karajan; my favourite is the second movement of the 7th symphony. Yes, this year has been a very unusual mixed bag for me, with very good things (the Europe trip includeing meeting you and Gerda, the new piano, having Codeofdusk come over to Australia from the US) and very bad things (the passing of my long-time Wikipedia friend JarrahTree, computer troubles, and the loss of my adminship). I indeed hope to get my adminship back at some point. Graham87 (talk) 02:36, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Plans to turn Muja into nuclear power station

You removed the sentence "Peter Dutton has said that Collie is the preferred site for a nuclear power plant under a Coalition government" from the Collie article because "it's not in Collie itself, it's at Muja Power Station, which already mentions this".

While you are correct, the Collie article also makes clear that there are strong ties to the mines and power stations. For example, it says

how many there are,
until I covered all three it said where one of them is in relation to the town,
it has a picture of Muja Power Station in its gallery,
it (erroneously) says "the state's two coal mines are in the town" (all but just under 2000 m2 of Bluewaters Mine are outside town),
it talks about how much Premier Coal produced initially,
how many years of reserve that mine has,
who owns Griffin, and
that "The government of Western Australia will soon commission a new base load power station, for which a number of Collie base proposals have been made."

If the nuclear power station is built, Collie will be its nearest town (as Cardiff has just 18 houses it's a hamlet). Are your objections solely about not replicating what is said at the Muja article, not tying it in better (we could say the WA government wants a new base load station but a possible coalition federal government wants a nuclear power station instead), or are there other objections? Elrondil (talk) 05:41, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Elrondil: My objections are about the replication, but also that Wikipedia is not a crystal ball (we don't know who the next government will be) and the recentist overemphasis on current events (you didn't mention the year of the announcement ... and if the coalition doesn't win government, this policy may well be scrapped, as ambitious policies by opposition parties of either side of government often are after a losing election). I checked a few of the sites mentioned in this ABC News article and none of the nearby towns mentioned the proposed nuclear sites. I don't particularly have a dog in this fight though; despite living about 100 km from Collie I've never been there and its article is only on my watchlist because of long-term unreverted vandalism and only survived my watchlist purge from last month because it's in regional Western Australia. Graham87 (talk) 06:02, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It was said in 2024, no problem adding that. My addition didn't claim what would happen, only that under a (can add 'future') coalition government the site of the current Muja coal-fired power station is the preferred site for a (future) nuclear power station (these things take about a decade to build and commission). Which we currently know to be true. He said it about six months ago, so not that recent, but I think he's serious because he been going on about nuclear for a few years (but the Collie bit only six months ago).

I don't care about the other states, but I can add the same thing to the article of the nearest town (if it makes sense) for the other six sites.

I don't always challenge back, but a nuclear power station 15 km outside Collie … very noteworthy. Elrondil (talk) 06:24, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Elrondil: That's only the policy for the upcoming election (hence my recentism concerns) and implying that it would apply to any future coalition federal government win is original research and crystal-ball-ing. I think it'd be best to leave things as they are for now, especially re other states. Or feel free to start a wider discussion at the Australian Wikipedians' notice board. Graham87 (talk) 06:40, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Graham87: Since one single sentence does not create an "inflated or imbalanced focus on recent events", I cannot share your concerns regarding WP:RECENT, and I am not interested in saying anything other than what is known to be true (so no OR or crystal balling), so will be careful to not imply "ANY future blah blah blah will do this too". Currently the article says "the Government of Western Australia will soon commission a new base load power station, for which a number of Collie base proposals have been made", and to stay balanced this needs to be added. We can't just leave it out because it might make Dutton look bad to someone that doesn't like nuclear power … not our remit and he doesn't think it's bad. Elrondil (talk) 07:02, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wider discussion about what … adding a sentence? Elrondil (talk) 07:04, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Elrondil: We've had wider discussions about much more trivial things ... I thought I'd sent this earlier but obviously not. Graham87 (talk) 07:42, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Graham87: I'm trying, but I'm not following what you're saying. Elrondil (talk) 07:48, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Elrondil: Adding a sentence can be a big deal, especially when being done to more than a few articles as you're proposing in this case. Ah I've figured out why my previous post didn't go through ... I had an edit conflict. Graham87 (talk) 07:51, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Graham87: I just wanted to add it to the Collie article because I don't care about the other states, and the exact wording is still open. Elrondil (talk) 07:58, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Range block 178.220.0.0/16

I must appeal to you to shorten the block. Range that you blocked are dynamic IPs that belong to biggest Serbian ISP (Telekom Srbija).

Regards Milicevic01 (talk) 09:11, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Milicevic01: I've looked in to this, and my block was too harsh, as it was in response to 178.220.100.50, who last edited in March. I've since lost my adminship due to over-aggressive blocking, so could an admin whose watching this page unblock this range for me, with my blessing, since I can't do so now? Actually I might ask on the admins' noticeboard. Graham87 (talk) 10:02, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've asked for this at ANI. Graham87 (talk) 10:34, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent, thank you very much Milicevic01 (talk) 13:20, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Got it. To OP: effective use of heading title. BusterD (talk) 13:35, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Screen reader-related inquiry

Hello Graham, hope you're doing well. Out of curiosity, does your screen reader treat the foreign-language terms different between the current version of Wikipedia:Today's featured article/December 27, 2024 and an old version? The current one just uses italics; the old version uses {{lang|mis}} (languages without an ISO code). Thanks, charlotte ^👸🎄 00:59, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey @Queen of Hearts:, I normally have language detection turned off, but when I turn it on, in this case my screen reader says the language code before the text marked up with that language, which isn't helpful. Graham87 (talk) 03:27, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Help regarding the history of the deaths lists

Hello Graham, I am doing some WikiArcheology regarding the history of the deaths lists. Dedicated lists stating notable deceased have existed since November 2001. However I cannot find any history before that. Nb: These 2001 edits reside in article 'Deaths in 2003' so the page must have been moved a few times. Looking into that I came across your name. NB2: I exclude the year pages (f.i. 2000) since they do more than list the dead. Can you help? Regards, Mill 1 (talk) 09:58, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Mill 1: Cool that you're interested in wiki-archaeology. Note I at Wikipedia:Wikipedia records has the answer to your query. A lot of Wikipedia's early history has been lost, so the earliest editing date in a page history doesn't always indicate the absolute earliest edit. Graham87 (talk) 10:03, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also see the links and page history at the Nostalgia Wikipedia, a copy of the Wikipedia database from December 2001, at its "Obituary" page. Even *I* think those page histories belong at the Nostalgia Wikipedia and not here. As for the main early list of deaths, I'm usually loathed to import early page history when there are significant gaps, but I think it's the easiest thing to do in this case ... have at it! Graham87 (talk) 10:39, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much for your info and adding the early page history to 'Deaths in 2003', this helps a lot! Mill 1 (talk) 11:07, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Mill 1: No worries. Hmmm, re the old obituary page and its year subpages: I found this edit and this one that might be of interest to you. The Nostalgia Wikipedia has all the relevant edits that I can find in all the database dumps I have, except for an extra edit by JimboWales at Recent celebrity deaths/2000, also reflected in this edit to the main "Recent celebrity deaths" page, showing that he initially created the page without wikilinks. Graham87 (talk) 13:05, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Aha, I see. Thx again Mill 1 (talk) 13:31, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Admin/account creator help needed

Hello, can an admin/account creator create this username for me: "Stefan Skoglund", without the quotes, to facilitate an import of an edit from the August 2001 database dump? I can't because it's too similar to the username Stefan skoglund. I can't remember the exact name of the check box you have to click to do this; when creating accounts as an admin in these sorts of situations, I just checked all of the "override/allow" checkboxes by default. I also just make up silly but relatively strong passwords in these sorts of situations, but if you want to give the account a temporary password, feel free. I don't need access to this account, just for it to exist in the database. Maybe importers should get antispoof permissions as Queen of Hearts said here ... or, with temporary accountcreator, I could systematically cross-check all the August 2001 usernames to make sure they exist , or something (but I don't think there'll be too many of these situations and I'd probably need about a month to go through everything). In this case, the edit I'm trying to import (to what is now Ada (programming language)), may well have been made by the same person with the modern username, but I'd feel a bit weird about importing it under the modern capitalisation. This is not a case like Aboyd (2001 editor) with two obviously different people sharing a username in the old and new databases. Thanks! Graham87 (talk) 14:32, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've created that account and started Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#RfC: Enable override-antispoof for importers. charlotte ^👸🎄 18:47, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Queen of Hearts: Thanks very much; I'll import the relevant edits and respond at the RFC. Graham87 (talk) 04:45, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Administrator rights lost

Read in The Signpost: 24 December 2024 the story about you. Wish you the best for the future. Grimes2 (talk) 23:02, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Grimes2: Thanks very much. Graham87 (talk) 02:19, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]