Talk:New England Patriots

Ty Law - Hall of Famer

I would like to change the list of New England Patriots Hall of Famers. It currently lists only Curtis Martin, Junior Seau, and Randy Moss. Ty Law was inducted into the Hall of Fame this year, see this article (http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25908742/pro-football-hall-fame-8-person-class-includes-ed-reed-ty-law-champ-bailey-tony-gonzalez). For the information required for that section: (1) He wore number 24, (2) he played CB, (3) he played for the Pats from 1995-2004, and (4) he was inducted in 2019. Lstanic (talk) lstanic —Preceding undated comment added 17:11, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

"Hartford Patriots" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Hartford Patriots. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 07:56, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

Cheating

No article about the Patriots is complete without a discussion of their culture of cheating. GlassBones (talk) 17:31, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 April 2020

I suggest adding a notation under the Aircraft section on this page to note that on April 3, 2020, the Patriots team jet was used to collect a shipment of 1.4 million N95 masks from China for the protection of medical workers during the coronavirus pandemic, after several shipments meant for Massachusetts were waylaid by the federal government.

Source: https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/02/us/coronavirus-patriots-plane-masks-spt-trnd/index.html Shuyomondai (talk) 23:13, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

 Not done per the ten-year test. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 15:15, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Early ownership of "Boston Patriots"

As a former Bostonian, I seem to recall that the original franchise sold stock and was publicly owned like Green Bay.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_New_England_Patriots indicates that there were 10 initial local investors. Am I recalling the early broad ownership community incorrectly?

The history page even says "During this time, the Sullivan family – who had owned the Patriots since their inception". Was there such single family ownership or weren't there multiple investors at the beginning? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mjmarcus (talk • contribs) 12:45, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

In terms of "owned", that undoubtedly means the "owner of record" in football terms - the person who represents the team to the league. That's usually the majority owner, but doesn't have to be. As for broad ownership early in the history, perhaps some research is in order? Let us know what you find. Tarl N. (discuss) 14:20, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

team colors

I saw the change in uniform colors from Nautical Blue to Navy Blue and New Century Silver to Silver.

I found these colors named in 2000 article (https://www.patriots.com/news/new-uniforms-unveiled-115846) and was suprised to find "navy" in the cited article, because I don't notice a change in shade in the uniform redesign. Is it actually different shades of blue and silver? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coemgenv (talk • contribs) 16:01, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 August 2021

Hey can you change the years in which they won their Super Bowls? because the years shown are incorrect they actually won their Super Bowls in 2002 2004 2005 2015 2017 and 2019 not 2001 2003 2004 2014 2016 2018 I know youre going by the season but the actual year counts even more 2600:1700:A710:6BA0:2D7B:B626:C301:28B2 (talk) 21:49, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: The season is the way it's displayed across articles. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:31, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 October 2021

This is incorrect (probably a typo)
Scoring[88] Stephen Gostkowski 1,755 points 2006–2019
should be
Scoring[88] Stephen Gostkowski 1,775 points 2006–2019
Footnote 88 confirms that. If only he had kicked one more extra point. 2601:184:4602:20E0:DDC0:9A2A:1AD9:4312 (talk) 19:56, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

 Done —Sirdog (talk) 23:03, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

Orphaned references in New England Patriots

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of New England Patriots's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "BroncosPatriots2011":

• From Broncos–Patriots rivalry: Klis, Mike (January 14, 2012). "Tom Brady leads Patriots' 45–10 rout of Broncos, Tim Tebow in NFL playoffs". The Denver Post. Retrieved January 14, 2012.
• From Denver Broncos: Klis, Mike (January 14, 2012). "Tom Brady leads Patriots' 45–10 rout of Broncos, Tim Tebow in NFL playoffs". The Denver Post. Archived from the original on January 18, 2012. Retrieved January 14, 2012.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 07:02, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 March 2022

This sentence in the 2nd-to-last paragraph in the section entitled "Franchise History" has a fundamental grammatical error--a textbook example of a dangling modifier. The sentence is this: "Driving the ball to New England's 1-yard line with under a minute to go, rookie cornerback Malcolm Butler caught a critical interception on Seattle's final offensive play that helped to seal the victory." For this sentence to make grammatical sense, Malcolm Butler would personally have had to "drive the ball to New England's 1-yard line!" When a sentence begins with a participial phrase like this, the opening phrase necessarily modifies the sentence's subject (here, "Malcolm Butler"). The sentence should be CHANGED TO THIS: "After Seattle had driven the ball to New England's 1-yard line with under a minute to go, New England rookie cornerback Malcolm Butler made a critical interception on Seattle's final offensive play that helped to seal the victory." The grammatical error is thus solved. Dbeach2 (talk) 00:28, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

 Done —Sirdog (talk) 20:10, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Any dedicated Patriots fans out here? If so, please consider joining me in updating the New England Patriots draft history page

Noticed the Patriots don't have a dedicated draft history page like a lot of other teams, so I went ahead and created the draft page for it that I will edit over time. I copied the initial data and table set up from a fellow AFL team, the Bengals, as they have been around a similar amount of time as us and surprisingly are the only AFC team on the list. The objective is to erase their draft history with ours, but keep the tables and key they've set up to save so much time.

I have been doing everything I can to make our pages better but this is not a one-person job. If anybody would like to assist me overtime these next few months while we correct it with our information overtime it would be so appreciated! The best source for our draft history is the official source (https://static.clubs.nfl.com/image/upload/patriots/ri10jlnudxege5my5alr.pdf)

Draft:New England Patriots draft history

As for another page I've done, I've created the Draft:New England Patriots records page, which should be uploaded any time in the next four months. Like I said, I would do the draft history by myself too but it is a massive undertaking. I wish there was some software that would accurately transfer the data from the official website or Pro-Football-Ref to the tables here, but sadly everything has to be by hand. Pats6XChamps (talk) 03:37, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

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Evil Empire

Editors, please remove the moronic "Evil Empire" fake nickname. This is not a thing. It was a shirt. It's disgraceful this page asserts that to be co-equal to the actual nickname of the franchise. 2604:CA00:17B:15F2:0:0:465:32B5 (talk) 02:19, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 April 2023

I'm suggesting that the word "each" and the final comma be removed from the sentence "Deion Branch (left) and Julian Edelman (right) are the two Patriots wide receivers that have won the Super Bowl MVP award, each doing so in Super Bowl XXXIX and Super Bowl LIII, respectively." because in its current form the sentence is ungrammatical. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.118.127.157 (talk) 14:26, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 August 2023

Add this after Boston distance: and 18 miles (29 km) northeast of Providence, Rhode Island. 100.10.48.166 (talk) 01:59, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

 Already done Pinchme123 (talk) 02:21, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

Pro Bowl V

The American Shoe Brand Championship Game Between The American Show Brand Conference Puma And National Show Brand Conference Nike For The 2017 National Shoe Brand League Season Puma Beat Nike By The Score 59-10 Puma's First Championship And The MVP Is Dave Rogers The Quarterback Of Puma. 2603:9000:D303:781:5477:2EBE:3EC:A98F (talk) 02:33, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

Brady Number Not Retired

Moved to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National Football League § Tom Brady Number Retirement

 – —Bagumba (talk) 18:04, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

Another editor is insisting Brady's number was retired during the season opener this past September, using dubious sources. As I pointed out on my talk page, neither NFL.com [1] nor the team itself [2] refer to the number being retired. Ditto ESPN [3] CBS [4] Boston.com [5] NBC Sports Boston [6] Yahoo [7] Jessintime (talk) 15:36, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

Hey man im josh What is your source that the number has been retired? 331dot (talk) 15:53, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

@331dot: Let's take this conversation to the central location of Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National Football League#Tom Brady Number Retirement. This has splintered off into too many separate discussions. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:59, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

@Jessintime: As I pointed out on your talk page, none of the sources you keep pasting actually support the argument you're making. Let's keep this centralized in one location. We've had a discussion on your talk page and you've also started a discussion at WT:NFL here. This conversation should not be splintering off the way that it is, as it gets confusing. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:56, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 January 2024

Change the ranking amongst the most valuable sports teams in the world to reflect the 2023 listing. This is the most recent version, and it states that the Patriots are now tied for the third most valuable, not the second. If you look at the Wiki page of these rankings, which this page links to, you will see that this is the case. 2601:645:B00:A380:2590:2F2C:D753:512F (talk) 22:27, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Here is the source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2023/09/08/the-worlds-50-most-valuable-sports-teams-2023/?sh=3c1e23b72b44 2601:645:B00:A380:2590:2F2C:D753:512F (talk) 22:33, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Geardona (talk to me?) 00:16, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Change “As of 2023, the Patriots are the second most valuable sports team in the world” to “As of 2023, the Patriots are tied for the third most valuable sports team in the world”.

Source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2023/09/08/the-worlds-50-most-valuable-sports-teams-2023/?sh=3c1e23b72b44 2601:645:B00:A380:2590:2F2C:D753:512F (talk) 00:39, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

 Done Geardona (talk to me?) 00:43, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

GA concerns

I am concerned that this article no longer meets the good article criteria. Some of my concerns are listed below:

• At over 10,000 words, WP:TOOBIG recommends that the article be trimmed or WP:SPINOUT. After quicklying skimming the article, I think there is information that can be cut. Some suggestions on what to move/trim are below.
• "Franchise history" should be sub-divided into level 3 headings for easier reading.
• The captions on some of the images are much too long. This information should be in the article body and cited.
• Records vs opponents and playoff records should be spun out into new articles or removed, as this is too much detail.
• Various team leaders should be moved into a new article as this is too much detail.
• I do not think the "NFL All-Decade and Anniversary team selections" is necessary for this article and can be removed.
• The "Patriots All-Decade teams" can be spun out into its own article.
• "Patriots Anniversary teams" Can be moved to its own article.
• "Pro Bowl selections" is too much detail and can be removed.
• "Controversies" section is, in my opinion, inherantly not-NPOV as it focuses on negative aspects. I think this section should be moved into the history section, where its impact on the team culture can be interpreted with other team historical events.
• There are uncited passages throughout the article.
• There is an extensive "Further reading" section: should these be used as inline citations or removed from the article?

Is anyone willing to help resolve the above concerns, or should this go to WP:GAR? Z1720 (talk) 02:04, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

As much as I absolutely despise the Patriots, and I do not regularly edit in football, I may attempt to fix the things you've listed here. Several of them seem quite simple. As for uncited passages, it would depend on the era. I'm not paying for print sources to save it, if those are necessary. mftp dan ^oops 12:09, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

@MFTP Dan: Are you still working on this? If not, would you be interested in bringing this to GAR outlining the remaining concerns? Z1720 (talk) 01:04, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

I'm already working on another GAR at the moment and I'll be busy for most of the rest of the week. mftp dan ^oops 01:37, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

"2026 New England Patriots season" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect 2026 New England Patriots season has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 November 24 § 2026 New England Patriots season until a consensus is reached. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:43, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 December 2024

Under nicknames:

America’s Team Bodiaz1 (talk) 00:53, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. LizardJr8 (talk) 01:11, 30 December 2024 (UTC)