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Id suggest in wake of his death to add a legacy section to explain how he's seen as one of the great filmmaker's, as to grease the wheels for a blurb posting at ITN. This should be easy to pull from the range of obits if not prior sources. — Masem (t) 18:50, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
For posting to ITN, I'd keep to a section in this article so that it supports posting but which you can expand later. Masem (t) 19:19, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
In several edits it is stated that David Lynch died January 16, 2025, currently "Lynch's family announced that he had died earlier that day at the age of 78" but I don't find anything like that in the sources. The facebook posting of the family does not mention the day ("It is with deep regret that we, his family, announce the passing of the man and the artist, David Lynch. "). --88.70.205.209 (talk) 23:00, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I would additionally note that another article from the same outlet appears to point back to the original announcement which says no date is known. TMZ stands alone in reporting in saying not only that he died on Wednesday the 15th, but reporting where he died. No more reliable source has picked up on this, but I have included it in the article with explicit attribution per WP:TMZ. Sunshineisles2 (talk) 00:50, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Amended the page to reflect this. While I would certainly prefer a more reliable source, TMZ did use the Facebook post to follow up with a family member for additional information, while Deadline was just relying on their article and the Facebook announcement like other outlets. Rusted AutoParts01:30, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed, the reason I was inclined to pay attention to TMZ's claims, all other issues with them aside, was that they did appear to attribute where they got this information. Other sources which have cited the 16th as the death date do so offhandedly and in ways that make me wonder if they're really just referring to when the announcement was released. Most sources still do not give a date of death at all, including the other major trades and national US papers. Sunshineisles2 (talk) 01:39, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, NYT, Washington Post and LA Times are quite explicit in their wording that "his family announced the death Thursday but did not share further details" or something similar. Connormah (talk) 01:47, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Should his date of death be changed to January 2025 since it’s not exactly known when he died?
I added, from J. Hoberman's New York Times obituary: "Like Frank Capra and Franz Kafka, two widely disparate 20th-century artists whose work Mr. Lynch much admired and might be said to have synthesized, his name became an adjective." He referred to himself as “Eagle Scout, Missoula, Montana.” We were told "This doesn't make any sense."
But it does. Mr. Hoberman eloquently captures how Lynch synthesized two seemingly disparate attitudes; the surrealism of Kafka and the homegrown Americana of Capra. And, yes, "Lynchian" is an adjective, per Oxford English Dictionary. How many artists have inspired their own adjectives? (Besides Capra and Kafka.) Charlie Faust (talk) 01:48, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Poorly worded and confusing? Well, I'm not going to argue with the paper of record. But, yes, Lynch can be seen to have elements of Kafka and Capra, two seemingly disparate artists he admired. And, like them, he has inspired an adjective. I think that's notable. Charlie Faust (talk) 02:48, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm really not sure what's confusing: "Like Frank Capra and Franz Kafka, two widely disparate 20th-century artists whose work Mr. Lynch much admired and might be said to have synthesized, his name became an adjective." And, indeed, "Lynchian" is recognized by the OED. Will cede on “Eagle Scout, Missoula, Montana.” Charlie Faust (talk) 02:55, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think it's a poorly structured sentence but irregardless are you saying you want to Capra line in the body of the article? That's fine, but its too trivial for the lead. Glad you conceded the Eagle Scout nonsense.The One I Left (talk) 02:56, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I don't like "irregardless" but I think the fact that he admired both Capra and Kafka and found ways to synthesize them is notable. Not sure why “Eagle Scout, Missoula, Montana” is nonsense, as he was an Eagle Scout from Missoula, Montana, and it shows his sense of humor. But I agree it doesn't belong in the lead. Charlie Faust (talk) 03:00, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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