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Weird sentence under the History section

>>According to Professor Baloch, the climate of Balochistan was very cold and the region was inhabitable during the winter so the Baloch people migrated in waves and settled in Sindh and Punjab.[25]<<

Does this sentence make sense? If the region was very cold, was it hard to inhabit? And was this then a reason for them to migrate?

This sentence right now doesn't make sense to me. There seems to be some sort of contrast that doesn't work.

personal commentary!

Haven't checked the rest of the cited citations yet. In the context has been added:

" Although they kept flocks of sheep, the Baloches also engaged in plundering travelers on the desert routes. This brought them into conflict with the Buyids, and later the Ghaznavids and the Seljuqs. Adud al-Dawla of the Buyid dynasty launched a punitive campaign against them and defeated them in 971–972."

but I found no such mention in that source. It is clear personal commentary. Balash-Vologases (talk) 20:07, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Religion

I removed Deobandi and Barelvi In the text of articleو

In the religion section you added: @Metamentalist

: 64.78% are Deobandis, 33.38% are Barelvis, and 1.25% are Ahl-i Hadith

These two revivalists movement are only practiced by few Balochs of Pakistan and not followed in other Baluch-populated areas in Iran, Afghanistan and etc.

Deobandi and Barelvi are not mentioned in the valid sources and studies that represent the religion of the Baloch.^[1]^[2]

I've checked all the sources, and none of them , mention that the Baloch religion shows "Deobandi and Barelvi " . Or anything along those lines. Seems only few Balochs in Pakistan follow those sects not generally correct about other Baloch. Balash-Vologases (talk) 16:08, 19 December 2024 (UTC) Balash-Vologases (talk) 19:46, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello dear, I've added the exact Tables from the source about the denomination (Barelvi, Deobandi or Ahl e Hadith), these are for Pakistan (and it has been precised "in Pakistan" in the text), I don't know about dynamics for Baloch elsewhere even if I think Deobandism is strong in Iran, please don't edit legitimate information and sources, thanks for your understanding. Metamentalist (talk) 13:23, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The sources don't support your claim, vast majority of the baloch don't subscribe those movements. Barelvi, Deobandi are are not Islamic religions, they are just political approaches.

In all sources, the Baloch religion is described as Sunni Islam with a Shiite minority.^[3]^[4]^[5]

please read WP:RS this time, as well as WP:PST and WP:EXTRAORDINARY. And just from a quick glance the source presents LOADS of theories, yet you're cherrypicking the ones you favour the most. Balash-Vologases (talk) 15:23, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

^ Korn, Jahani, Titus, Agnes , Carina , Paul Brian (2008). The Baloch and Others Linguistic, Historical and Socio-political Perspectives on Pluralism in Balochistan. Reichert Verlag. p. 12. ISBN 9783895005916.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)
^ "Baloch people". Encyclopædia Britannica.
^ Malik, Fida Hussain (2020). Balochistan A Conflict of Narratives. Saiyid Books. p. 175. ISBN 9789692200028.
^ Louër, Laurence (2020). Sunnis and Shi'a A Political Histo. Princeton University Press. p. 159. ISBN 9780691234502.
^ Ahmady, Kameel (2013). From Border to Border Research Study on Identity and Ethnicity in Iran. Avaye Buf. p. 100. ISBN 9788794295314.

[1] Korn, Jahani, Titus, Agnes , Carina , Paul Brian (2008). The Baloch and Others Linguistic, Historical and Socio-political Perspectives on Pluralism in Balochistan. Reichert Verlag. p. 12. ISBN 9783895005916.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)

[2] "Baloch people". Encyclopædia Britannica.

[:Balochistan_A_Conflict_of_Narratives-3] Malik, Fida Hussain (2020). Balochistan A Conflict of Narratives. Saiyid Books. p. 175. ISBN 9789692200028.

[2-4] Louër, Laurence (2020). Sunnis and Shi'a A Political Histo. Princeton University Press. p. 159. ISBN 9780691234502.

[:From_Border_to_Border_Research_Study_on_Identity_and_Ethnicity_in_Iran-5] Ahmady, Kameel (2013). From Border to Border Research Study on Identity and Ethnicity in Iran. Avaye Buf. p. 100. ISBN 9788794295314.

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