Talk:Family tree of the Greek gods
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Dionysus?
[edit]There is no Dionysus 196.12.150.130 (talk) 05:06, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- There is Dyonysus OmegaTurtle443 (talk) 21:59, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
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add Hercules to family tree as he is the son of Zeus but his name is not there under the kids of Zeus 173.72.3.91 (talk) 18:47, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- It is present as Heracles. Hyphenation Expert (talk) 19:13, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
Kronos and Chronus
[edit]I'm, quite honestly, just Greek Mythos nerd. But, Kronos and Chronos are separate figures. I'm only posting to the talk because I noticed that Chronos, Aion and Kairos(Not to be confused with Caeros) aren't on the tree.
Kronos, occasionally spelt 'Cronos' or 'Cronus', is the Greek Titan and father to the original six gods, as well as Chiron and other repeated figures in Greek myth. Meanwhile Chronos is one of the three Greek personification of time, being in a trio of gods with Aion and Kairos.
In the mythology, Kronos killed his father, Oranus, for his throne under the guidance of Gaea. After that he took the throne with his older sister, and wife, Rhea. Then comes how Zeus became king. Kronos and Rhea produced five gods (Demeter, Hestia, Hera, Hades, and Poseidon), eating all of them for fear of a prophecy of them taking his throne. The last kid, Zues, was born in secret and hidden, blah, blah, blah. Kronos ate a rock, blah, blah, he dies at the hands of his extremely and justifiably pissed kids, blah, Zeus is now king of the gods. Now, Kronos' fate after this is up for debate, but it's generally accepted that he was cast into Tartarus with many of the other Titans. This does not include Prometheus, Epimetheus, Helios, Oceanus, Atlas, Astraeus or the female Titans. In Orphic poems, he's locked in a cave with Nyx for eternity. Gaea then births Typhon in retribution to more of her children being locked away.
Also in the mythology, the Orphic version, Chronus (Time itself) is the creator of Aether, Chaos and an egg which later hatches Phanes (The father of the original gods in the Orphic religion). And in the Heptamychos(The seven recesses) by Pherecydes of Syros, his semen was placed in the recesses of the earth and then created the first gods.
This is could also be just me being picky, but they should all be there in my opinion. Or at least Chronos, since Aion and Kairos don't really have a mythology that's been written down. IzralliPlayz (talk) 17:01, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- Chronos doesn't fit into this existing tree, which is based mostly upon Hesiod's Theogony (especially in the upper parts), whereas the genealogical information we have on Chronos comes mostly from Orphic cosmogonies (which don't agree with each other, let alone the Hesiodic tradition!). It wouldn't really be appropriate or accurate to try to attach him to the current tree, as that would entail concatenating genealogical information from disparate sources, which differ significantly in era, context, and purpose.
- In fact, the existence of this page at all is somewhat problematic, as it seems to imply that Greek mythology is static and consistent (a misconception a number of people might have, which we don't want to reinforce), as though these are characters from a novel or movie or something, when, in reality, the various divine genealogies given by numerous different sources certainly cannot be boiled down to a single, coherent chart. Perhaps a better idea would be to restrict ourselves to the Theogony, and rename this page to "Family tree of the Greek gods in Hesiod's Theogony" (or similar), seeing as much of the chart is already based upon that work; this way we wouldn't be mixing together information from different sources in a problematic way, as we are currently. Saying that, we do already have multiple genealogical charts at Theogony which do a better job than a single chart could, though, regardless, I do still see geniune encyclopedic usefulness in such a page. – Michael Aurel (talk) 00:39, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
Where's Gelos?
[edit]I want to know if anyone would add Gelos the personification of laughter to the family tree OmegaTurtle443 (talk) 21:51, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- @OmegaTurtle443: His page currently doesn't ascribe a genealogy to him, so he wouldn't connect to anyone on the chart. Probably this page should be reworked per my comment in the preceding section. – Michael Aurel (talk) 22:00, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
The name for Ouranos is wrong
[edit]Uranus is the roman name while Ouranos is the greek name saying that everything else has the Greek name Uranus should be changed to Ouranos OmegaTurtle443 (talk) 21:58, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- No, our page for the Greek god Uranus is at Uranus. – Michael Aurel (talk) 22:01, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
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